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Post by rmarks1 on May 24, 2019 12:01:26 GMT -5
The post above is a screenshot of my post (as indicated by my name on the upper left area), which was edited by you, as indicated in the lower right corner. You'd have to be either extremely dense or hold me for a total idiot to believe I wouldn't notice.
No. That is not a screenshot of your post.
It is a screenshot of MY REPLY TO YOUR POST.
What I edited was my response. I notice you did not also include a screenshot of your original post. If you had, you would have seen that your text is exactly the same.
You would have to be either extremely dense or hold me for a total idiot to believe I wouldn't notice.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 5:57:46 GMT -5
So why does my name show up on the left of that post, as if I were its author? And why were you quoting yourself in that post?
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Post by rmarks1 on May 25, 2019 11:01:34 GMT -5
So why does my name show up on the left of that post, as if I were its author? And why were you quoting yourself in that post?
I must have accidentally hit the edit button instead of the Quote button. I've made that mistake a couple of times before.
In any event, if you claim I changed your text, just tell us what your original post was and how I changed it.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 13:12:36 GMT -5
So, let's get back to your ad hominem bullshit over Sanders being a millionaire bestselling author.
What's your deal with that?
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Post by rmarks1 on May 25, 2019 14:33:38 GMT -5
So, let's get back to your ad hominem bullshit over Sanders being a millionaire bestselling author. What's your deal with that?
Argument by insult. And argument by Declaration.
If you have a logical point to make, please state it. Simply declaring something to be an Ad Hominem or false is not proof.
What's your deal with that?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 0:07:25 GMT -5
Please explain your logical point, then.
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Post by rmarks1 on May 26, 2019 2:03:46 GMT -5
Please explain your logical point, then.
My point is the same as in the top post.
Bernie Sanders criticizes the American system but it worked out all right for him. He wrote a best-selling book and became a millionaire.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 11:33:49 GMT -5
Please explain your logical point, then. My point is the same as in the top post. Bernie Sanders criticizes the American system but it worked out all right for him. He wrote a best-selling book and became a millionaire. Bob
Would you say that the American system worked out alright for you?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 11:34:58 GMT -5
By the way, didn't you once say that everyone can be a millionaire if they are hard-working, capable and intelligent enough?
I'm wondering, Bob, how does it feel having proof that a socialist like Bernie Sanders is more hard-working, more capable and smarter than yourself?
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Post by rmarks1 on May 26, 2019 12:28:00 GMT -5
By the way, didn't you once say that everyone can be a millionaire if they are hard-working, capable and intelligent enough?
I'm wondering, Bob, how does it feel having proof that a socialist like Bernie Sanders is more hard-working, more capable and smarter than yourself?
Who said I wanted to ever be a millionaire? Oh it would be nice to have all that money. But I'm lazy.
I work enough to be comfortable and I'm happy. And Happiness is what life is all about.
So I don't begrudge Bernie Sanders for his money. And Bill Gates. And Jeff Bezos.
Bill and Jeff have already given me enough. I have a computer and I find it very convenient to shop online at Amazon. And I didn't have to even lift a finger to make it all happen (except for typing on the keyboard).
And Bernie Sanders gives me plenty of laughs.
Remember this Mcanswer. Happiness does not come automatically with a lot of money. Happiness is when you are more than satisfied with the life that you have built. And I am more than satisfied to let people like Gates and Bezos do all the work. They did not set out to work for me. But I get all the benefits simply by letting them alone to follow their own dreams.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 14:54:08 GMT -5
Would you ever criticize the American system, then?
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Post by rmarks1 on May 26, 2019 16:06:50 GMT -5
Would you ever criticize the American system, then?
I criticize the American system all the time when it deviates from its ideals.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 19:06:39 GMT -5
Would you ever criticize the American system, then?
I criticize the American system all the time when it deviates from its ideals.
Bob
Why? The system worked out alright for you, didn't it?
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Post by rmarks1 on May 26, 2019 22:08:35 GMT -5
I criticize the American system all the time when it deviates from its ideals.
Bob
Why? The system worked out alright for you, didn't it?
Yes, the American system worked out fine for me. And I criticize it to make sure in my own small way that it still works out for me.
Selfish? Yep. But I can't make the system work for me unless I make sure it works out for everyone else too.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 11:52:51 GMT -5
Why? The system worked out alright for you, didn't it?
Yes, the American system worked out fine for me. And I criticize it to make sure in my own small way that it still works out for me.
Selfish? Yep. But I can't make the system work for me unless I make sure it works out for everyone else too.
Bob
So what exactly are you criticizing about Sanders then?
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Post by rmarks1 on May 27, 2019 12:15:19 GMT -5
Yes, the American system worked out fine for me. And I criticize it to make sure in my own small way that it still works out for me.
Selfish? Yep. But I can't make the system work for me unless I make sure it works out for everyone else too.
Bob
So what exactly are you criticizing about Sanders then?
Sanders has been criticizing Capitalism for making a few people rich while making many others poor. Isn't it ironic that the very book where he said this made him a millionaire?
And BTW Sanders claim is wrong. Over the past 30 years, several hundred million poor people have been raised out of poverty around the world. I posted supporting evidence for that several times over the last few years.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 12:29:08 GMT -5
So what you are criticizing is that he believes things that you don't, and vice versa.
In your usual fashion, you made a mountain out of a molehill.
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Post by rmarks1 on May 27, 2019 13:22:21 GMT -5
So what you are criticizing is that he believes things that you don't, and vice versa. Strawman. I never said that at all. What I did do is point out that sales of his book in which he criticized capitalism for giving money to the rich made him rich. I think that's rich. Dogmatic Conclusion presented without any supporting evidence. Bob
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 12:39:07 GMT -5
So what you are criticizing is that he believes things that you don't, and vice versa. Strawman. I never said that at all. What I did do is point out that sales of his book in which he criticized capitalism for giving money to the rich made him rich. Isn't that a sign that he is correct? The free marketplace of ideas supports those ideas that are more correct, after all.
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Post by rmarks1 on Jun 3, 2019 13:43:37 GMT -5
Strawman. I never said that at all. What I did do is point out that sales of his book in which he criticized capitalism for giving money to the rich made him rich. Isn't that a sign that he is correct? The free marketplace of ideas supports those ideas that are more correct, after all.
LOL! Of course it's not a sign that Sanders is correct. "Mein Kampf" had large book sales too. Does that mean Hitler was correct?
The fact that a book has big sales just means people are interested in that book.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 13:02:20 GMT -5
Isn't that a sign that he is correct? The free marketplace of ideas supports those ideas that are more correct, after all. LOL! Of course it's not a sign that Sanders is correct. "Mein Kampf" had large book sales too. Does that mean Hitler was correct? The fact that a book has big sales just means people are interested in that book.
Bob
Really? So how does the free market of ideas determine which are correct?
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Post by rmarks1 on Jun 4, 2019 13:13:42 GMT -5
LOL! Of course it's not a sign that Sanders is correct. "Mein Kampf" had large book sales too. Does that mean Hitler was correct? The fact that a book has big sales just means people are interested in that book.
Bob
Really? So how does the free market of ideas determine which are correct?
In the short term, the Free Market only shows which ideas are the most popular, not most correct.
It takes time to determine which ideas are the most correct. But the Free Market does speed up the process. After all, you can't test an in idea if censorship keeps you from ever hearing about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 13:17:17 GMT -5
Really? So how does the free market of ideas determine which are correct? In the short term, the Free Market only shows which ideas are the most popular, not most correct. It takes time to determine which ideas are the most correct. But the Free Market does speed up the process. After all, you can't test an in idea if censorship keeps you from ever hearing about it. Bob
How much time does it take until we know whether an idea is correct? How does the free market test ideas?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 13:18:06 GMT -5
By the way, has the idea of a free marketplace of ideas actually tested in a free marketplace of ideas? If not, then how do we know that it is a correct idea?
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Post by rmarks1 on Jun 4, 2019 13:58:41 GMT -5
In the short term, the Free Market only shows which ideas are the most popular, not most correct. It takes time to determine which ideas are the most correct. But the Free Market does speed up the process. After all, you can't test an in idea if censorship keeps you from ever hearing about it. How much time does it take until we know whether an idea is correct? That varies. One thing we can say with certainty though. The free flow of ideas certainly works faster that Censorship. You can't test an idea if you are forbidden to even know about it. The Free Market doesn't test anything. The Free Market frees people to do their own research and testing. Bob
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 18:38:49 GMT -5
How much time does it take until we know whether an idea is correct? That varies. Varies by what? So the free market doesn't actually do anything.
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Post by rmarks1 on Jun 4, 2019 21:51:35 GMT -5
Varies for several reasons. For one thing, it depends on the importance of the issue being discussed. An important issue would attract a lot of attention and investigation. This could cause the issue to be resolved more quickly. Or the issue might require a scientific breakthrough. We can't really predict when those are going to happen. Right. It frees people, and the people accomplish things. Bob
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 16:53:49 GMT -5
Varies for several reasons. For one thing, it depends on the importance of the issue being discussed. An important issue would attract a lot of attention and investigation. This could cause the issue to be resolved more quickly. Or the issue might require a scientific breakthrough. We can't really predict when those are going to happen. Can you cite an actual example? Is the free market a person? If not, then how can it do things?
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Post by rmarks1 on Jun 5, 2019 20:42:38 GMT -5
Varies for several reasons. For one thing, it depends on the importance of the issue being discussed. An important issue would attract a lot of attention and investigation. This could cause the issue to be resolved more quickly. Or the issue might require a scientific breakthrough. We can't really predict when those are going to happen. Can you cite an actual example? Easy one. Here's 2 examples: The Higgs Boson was only a theoretical proposal before a collider was built that was large enough to produce evidence that the Boson actually existed. Einstein's General Theory of relativity that light beams could be shifted by gravity. That was not proved until years later when photographs taken during an eclipse of the Sun showed light from two stars had indeed been shifted. The Free Market is a method of doing things. When people follow that procedure, certain results follow. In this case, more gets accomplished. Bob
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 14:40:14 GMT -5
Can you cite an actual example? Easy one. Here's 2 examples: The Higgs Boson was only a theoretical proposal before a collider was built that was large enough to produce evidence that the Boson actually existed. That collider was built with tax money wasn't it? And what does this have to do with a free market? Wasn't Einstein put under FBI observation in the US, because he was a leftist pacifist? What is the "procedure" of a free market and how is it different from other procedures? What are the results that follow from a free market, and how do they differ from the results of other procedures?
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