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Post by rmarks1 on Nov 9, 2013 13:06:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 20:52:53 GMT -5
Humor for Cynics
“Scratch any cynic and you will find a disappointed idealist.” ― George Carlin
“I want my time to be taken up by chores, errands, appointments, and arguments. In other words, I want to get married.” ― Jarod Kintz
“As my father always used to tell me, 'You see, son, there's always someone in the world worse off than you.' And I always used to think, 'So?” - Bill Bryson, The Lost Continent: Travels in Small Town America
“Show me somebody who is always smiling, always cheerful, always optimistic, and I will show you somebody who hasn't the faintest idea what the heck is really going on.” ― Mike Royko “A true friend is a gift from God. Since God doesn't exist, guess what? Neither do true friends.” ― Scott Dikkers, You Are Worthless: Depressing Nuggets of Wisdom Sure to Ruin Your Day
“In the depths of my heart I can’t help being convinced that my dear fellow-men, with a few exceptions, are worthless.” ― Sigmund Freud, Letters of Sigmund Freud, 1873-1939
"Life—the way it really is—is a battle not between good and bad, but between bad and worse” ― Joseph Brodsky
“All I have to be thankful for in this world is that I was sitting down when my garter busted.” ― Dorothy Parker, The Portable Dorothy Parker
“...God created the world in six days. On the seventh day, he rested. On the eighth day, he started getting complaints. And it hasn't stopped since.” ― James Scott Bell, Sins of the Fathers
"No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up.” ― Lily Tomlin
“The large print giveth and the small print taketh away.” ― Tom Waits, The Early Years: The Lyrics, 1971-1983
“If you behaved nicely, the communists wouldn't exist.” ― Jenny Holzer, Jenny Holzer
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Post by rmarks1 on Nov 9, 2013 21:13:34 GMT -5
Good ones Lily. Touche!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 21:24:55 GMT -5
Bob, I've often thought that I should read Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" just for the experience and to know what it's all about so that I can present an intelligent argument against it. And so I was in Barnes and Noble today and I honestly just happened to run into it. And when I saw how humongous it was, I thought, hell, I'll just ask Bob to summarize it for me.
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Post by rmarks1 on Nov 9, 2013 22:08:38 GMT -5
Bob, I've often thought that I should read Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" just for the experience and to know what it's all about so that I can present an intelligent argument against it. And so I was in Barnes and Noble today and I honestly just happened to run into it. And when I saw how humongous it was, I thought, hell, I'll just ask Bob to summarize it for me. Read "The Fountainhead" instead. Bob
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 22:16:37 GMT -5
Bob, I've often thought that I should read Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" just for the experience and to know what it's all about so that I can present an intelligent argument against it. And so I was in Barnes and Noble today and I honestly just happened to run into it. And when I saw how humongous it was, I thought, hell, I'll just ask Bob to summarize it for me. Read "The Fountainhead" instead. Bob Good one, Bob. But I saw that book, too. It was homongous as well. Good try at weaslingly out of it.
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Post by rmarks1 on Nov 10, 2013 12:48:33 GMT -5
Read "The Fountainhead" instead. Bob Good one, Bob. But I saw that book, too. It was homongous as well. Good try at weaslingly out of it. Hey Lily, why should I do your work for you? If long books are too much for you, try "Anthem." I re-read it recently in two days. Bob
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2013 13:28:13 GMT -5
Good one, Bob. But I saw that book, too. It was homongous as well. Good try at weaslingly out of it. Hey Lily, why should I do your work for you? If long books are too much for you, try "Anthem." I re-read it recently in two days. Bob Lol, I guess I was being too oblique. I was ribbing you, Bob. You do it to me, too. It's not difficult to find a summary of any book. You could have just given me a link. But actually I thought that you could have given me a short summary yourself. I am kind of interested in both of those books, but more interested to read a lot of others first, and our time no matter what, is limited.
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Post by raybar on Nov 10, 2013 14:42:36 GMT -5
There is a movie version (in 2 parts) of Atlas Shrugged. Available on Netflix. Decent movies. I never read the book, so I don't know how closely the films follow it, or if it's complete (part 3 coming???)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2013 15:04:28 GMT -5
There is a movie version (in 2 parts) of Atlas Shrugged. Available on Netflix. Decent movies. I never read the book, so I don't know how closely the films follow it, or if it's complete (part 3 coming???) Thanks, Raybar! I do subscribe to Netflix and I hardly use it. So here's a good chance to do so.
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Post by rmarks1 on Nov 10, 2013 15:07:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2013 15:12:13 GMT -5
Thanks, Bob. I appreciate that.
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Post by Blarney Rubble on Nov 10, 2013 16:51:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2013 18:35:37 GMT -5
Thanks, Zak. But there's nothing new there that hasn't already been reported or that we didn't already know or heard of ad nauseum.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2013 21:31:39 GMT -5
Okay, I've read the article. It was fairly long so I printed it out to read in comfort. (It didn't allow printing so I copied it to Microsoft Word first.) From this short introduction, I can see the value of Rand's ideas for the individual. For all folks in general, I'm not so sure. The other day on conservative Micheal Medved's radio talk show (I only listen to conversative radio when I'm taking a shower or cleaning the bathroom) he had a caller who worked very hard as a carpentar and in construction and only made up to $11.00 an hour after around 10 years. He was a very articulate guy and really well read. His point was that the average IQ of Americans is around 90 -100, and not everyone can aspire to high levels of success and income. So what do you do about those folks? Anyway, I will get to see the movie "Atlas Shrugged" (thank you, Raybar) and maybe we can start to have an ongoing discussion on this topic.
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Post by rmarks1 on Nov 10, 2013 23:17:23 GMT -5
Okay, I've read the article. It was fairly long so I printed it out to read in comfort. (It didn't allow printing so I copied it to Microsoft Word first.) From this short introduction, I can see the value of Rand's ideas for the individual. For all folks in general, I'm not so sure. The other day on conservative Micheal Medved's radio talk show (I only listen to conversative radio when I'm taking a shower or cleaning the bathroom) he had a caller who worked very hard as a carpentar and in construction and only made up to $11.00 an hour after around 10 years. He was a very articulate guy and really well read. His point was that the average IQ of Americans is around 90 -100, and not everyone can aspire to high levels of success and income. So what do you do about those folks? Anyway, I will get to see the movie "Atlas Shrugged" (thank you, Raybar) and maybe we can start to have an ongoing discussion on this topic. Rand's philosophy is not just for geniuses. Many of the heroes in her books are ordinary people who have honesty, integrity, and love their work. For example, the construction worker, Mike Donnegan, in "The Fountainhead". Bob
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2013 0:09:09 GMT -5
Okay, just my initial thoughts. You of course know that no one should take anyone's assertions without verifyng them for themselves. So, as I mentioned...food for further discussions.
P.S. What's written in a book of fiction is not necessarily true in real life.
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Post by raybar on Nov 11, 2013 7:56:03 GMT -5
... I will get to see the movie "Atlas Shrugged" (thank you, Raybar) and maybe we can start to have an ongoing discussion ... You,re quite welcome, Lily. But bear in mind that you will be watching a movie based on a book, not the book itself. The movies may only have the basic story and the main characters. Sub plots, flash backs, minor characters, the author telling you what characters are thinking, and so on, are often dropped to condense a novel into a movie.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2013 16:00:11 GMT -5
... I will get to see the movie "Atlas Shrugged" (thank you, Raybar) and maybe we can start to have an ongoing discussion ... You,re quite welcome, Lily. But bear in mind that you will be watching a movie based on a book, not the book itself. The movies may only have the basic story and the main characters. Sub plots, flash backs, minor characters, the author telling you what characters are thinking, and so on, are often dropped to condense a novel into a movie. Those are good points, Raybar. But it's better than knowing nothing. It can be a jumping off point to ask questions. Hopefully it wo't make me want to jump into a fountainhead. Anyway, I'm not sure when I'll be watching the film.
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