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Post by teri on Aug 20, 2013 17:40:53 GMT -5
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Post by raybar on Aug 20, 2013 22:20:24 GMT -5
I get the "Atlas" reference, but it reminded me of a man called John Gall, who was the shipping/receiving guy where I worked when I first came to Los Angeles years ago, and the little foam packing "peanuts" that we called "Gall's Gribblies" for reasons that predated my tenure at Schaeffer Photo and Camera Supply in Hollywood.
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 21, 2013 0:30:50 GMT -5
Hi Teri. Long time, no see. Good to have you back. How have you been? Apparently all those people who are moving to Texas don't agree with that article. www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22649624Poor Fred Askew and Dawn. They must really be suffering. Bob Marks |
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Post by raybar on Aug 21, 2013 13:44:10 GMT -5
But Bob, the article Teri linked was about a specific point -- paved roads being reverted to gravel rather than being maintained. It was not about people moving to Texas or about why people like living there. |
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Post by teri on Aug 21, 2013 17:01:38 GMT -5
bob, it sounds like another case of the externalities caused by big business not being paid for by big business. according to the article " thanks to wear and tear from the oil companies, which have made themselves remarkably rich from Texas' resources, Texas can no longer afford to pave many of its roads, and will instead transition from pavement to gravel."
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 21, 2013 21:37:53 GMT -5
But Bob, the article Teri linked was about a specific point -- paved roads being reverted to gravel rather than being maintained. It was not about people moving to Texas or about why people like living there. That was the implication of that article though. Texas is a bad place because the government doesn't make those evil corporations pay for road paving. Bob |
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 21, 2013 21:43:15 GMT -5
bob, it sounds like another case of the externalities caused by big business not being paid for by big business. according to the article " thanks to wear and tear from the oil companies, which have made themselves remarkably rich from Texas' resources, Texas can no longer afford to pave many of its roads, and will instead transition from pavement to gravel." Yes, but this particular case is trivial. It certainly doesn't affect the number of jobs being created in Texas or even have much affect on the quality of life. If it ever does become a serious problem rather than a trivial one, then the citizens of Texas will probably take action to solve it. Bob |
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Post by teri on Aug 22, 2013 0:25:06 GMT -5
business relies on good public infrastructure, too. they have sacrificed road and water infrastructure in order to lure big business in with low taxes. the drought, water shortages, neglected water system are going to take a toll on the economy in the long run. the teabaggers only look short term.
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Post by teri on Aug 22, 2013 2:29:02 GMT -5
"Apparently all those people who are moving to Texas don't agree with that article."
and all those new residents pouring everyday into the state will put that much more pressure on crumbling road and water infrastructures.
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Post by raybar on Aug 22, 2013 13:08:52 GMT -5
Bob, you may consider this particular paved-to-gravel situation trivial. After all, what's 80 miles of rural roads in an area the size of Texas? But you live far away in New York and don't drive. Local residents may have another view, having seen the roads upon which they depend and which they paid for through their taxes ruined by heavy industrial usage, while those very same extremely profitable industries pay low taxes.
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Post by teri on Aug 22, 2013 13:26:29 GMT -5
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 22, 2013 23:26:17 GMT -5
Bob, you may consider this particular paved-to-gravel situation trivial. After all, what's 80 miles of rural roads in an area the size of Texas? But you live far away in New York and don't drive. Local residents may have another view, having seen the roads upon which they depend and which they paid for through their taxes ruined by heavy industrial usage, while those very same extremely profitable industries pay low taxes. What about the industrial users? They use those same roads. Shouldn't they be concerned about them as well? Why aren't they? And are those local residents really upset about this? Usually with an article like this, they interview the "victims" and report their complaints. But there aren't any. Why not? Perhaps no one in Texas is complaining. Bob |
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 22, 2013 23:28:15 GMT -5
Anybody can make a flyer with vague complaints like this. Where is the evidence? Bob |
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 22, 2013 23:31:26 GMT -5
"Apparently all those people who are moving to Texas don't agree with that article." and all those new residents pouring everyday into the state will put that much more pressure on crumbling road and water infrastructures. So? It's their state. If they want more roads and water systems, they will build them. And why are more roads so important anyway? More and better roads encourage people to drive more. That puts more CO2 into the air and increases global warming. Bob Marks |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 14:23:40 GMT -5
Indeed. Why don't they just take the subway as civilized New Yorker's do.
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Post by teri on Aug 23, 2013 17:26:53 GMT -5
Bob sez: "And why are more roads so important anyway? More and better roads encourage people to drive more. That puts more CO2 into the air and increases global warming."
curbing fossil fuel usage is vital to our survival on this planet. not sure the way to do it is to have the roads ravaged by oil-industry trucks so a few local inhabitants will drive a bit less.
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 23, 2013 18:01:50 GMT -5
Bob sez: "And why are more roads so important anyway? More and better roads encourage people to drive more. That puts more CO2 into the air and increases global warming." curbing fossil fuel usage is vital to our survival on this planet. not sure the way to do it is to have the roads ravaged by oil-industry trucks so a few local inhabitants will drive a bit less. It's a start.  Bob |
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