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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 14:15:32 GMT -5
Scary dictatorship.
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 6, 2014 14:28:30 GMT -5
As reported by the mouthpiece of the State Department : )
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 14:31:39 GMT -5
As reported by the mouthpiece of the State Department : ) As reported by Zak.
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 6, 2014 14:49:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 15:00:15 GMT -5
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 6, 2014 15:06:20 GMT -5
Yes, I read the report. Putin is a lunatic. But, as with many other issues, the US is in no position to wag a finger at Russia. The US media - from news/documentaries to Hollywood movies - are among the most restricted and government-controlled in the world. We see things on TV and in the cinemas here that would never be shown in the US. The really interesting thing is that if you talk to any Russian, they'll tell you that their media is open and free. Americans are under the same illusion regarding the US media.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 15:13:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 17:52:57 GMT -5
As reported by the propaganda mouthpiece of the British government!
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 6, 2014 18:23:13 GMT -5
Exactly!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 20:29:37 GMT -5
If only everyone were to rely on reliable and unbiased sources like InfoWars, so that everyone can know how 9/11 was an inside job by the Mossad, and that Obama is leading a secret effort to establish a world government.
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 6, 2014 22:19:52 GMT -5
I'm perfectly well aware that InfoWars is biased. Are you claiming that the BBC and CNN aren't biased?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2014 10:05:43 GMT -5
I'm perfectly well aware that InfoWars is biased. Are you claiming that the BBC and CNN aren't biased? I am claiming that unlike Alex Jones, the BBC staff can actually distinguish between opinion and fact. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio_host%29
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 7, 2014 13:33:21 GMT -5
You're citing Wikipedia to support your belief that Alex Jones is an unreliable source. Which is funny, because Wikipedia itself is no more reliable than Jones - ie, not reliable at all. Some of my best friends work at the BBC. I argue with them all the time. They can certainly distinguish between opinion and fact. But that isn't the issue, is it? The issue is whether the facts they choose to report are the most relevant facts, and whether, in reporting them, they give those facts a particular "spin". The issue is also whether the BBC disseminates information - or, in some cases, suppresses information - at the request of the government or the Home Office. And of course the BBC is notoriously selective of the facts it chooses to broadcast, it does give news items an Establishment "spin", and it does cooperate with the government and the Home Office in reporting or suppressing certain facts. Just because BBC journalists can distinguish between opinion and fact, it doesn't mean they do distinguish between opinion and fact. As Humbert Wolf pointed out in his famous epigram: You cannot hope to bribe or twist (thank God!) the British journalist. But, seeing what the man will do unbribed, there’s no occasion to.That the BBC is biased is hardly a secret. biasedbbc.org/www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/17/bbc-leftwing-bias-non-existent-mythwww.globalresearch.ca/bbc-s-pro-israeli-bias/9307You're also wrong to suggest that Alex Jones can't distinguish between fact and opinion. Whether he does or not is another thing.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 17:41:40 GMT -5
You're citing Wikipedia to support your belief that Alex Jones is an unreliable source. Which is funny, because Wikipedia itself is no more reliable than Jones - ie, not reliable at all. Do you disagree with the facts cited in that article? Or are you just being a crank because I pointed out that your primary source is a 9/11 truther?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 17:53:27 GMT -5
That the BBC is biased is hardly a secret. I don't know why you think I believe that the BBC is not biased. There is a difference between bias (which is a necessary component of journalism) and reliability (or facticity if you will). The BBC has political motives, sure, but they also tend to check their sources - and there are enough people working there that a single person's bias isn't significantly going to affect a large body of the news. By comparison, InfoWars and similar blog sites are aggregates for whatever snippet of info the author finds interesting or relevant - but whether any such information is factual is entirely down to a single person's bias, beliefs, and attitude. I'd rather trust a site like Wikipedia, which is being edited by hundreds of random strangers, over the blog of a single guy whom I can't trust to report the facts.
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 9, 2014 0:58:43 GMT -5
My primary source? Are you now claiming that my primary source is InfoWars because I once posted a link to an article on the InfoWars website which was carried on thousands of other websites and which I had carefully checked out before posting?
Even a broken clock tell the correct time twice a day.
I am meticulous when it comes to checking and verifying information. I make sure of my facts before I open my mouth on any subject. Which is more than many journalists do these days.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 22:22:17 GMT -5
My primary source? Are you now claiming that my primary source is InfoWars because I once posted a link to an article on the InfoWars website which was carried on thousands of other websites and which I had carefully checked out before posting? You've posted InfoWars links several times in the past. And it's common practice among bloggers to copy-and-paste articles from related sites, "carried on thousands of other websites" says absolutely nothing about the reliability when the only websites that carry the info are crank blogs and conspiracy sites. But you don't know when that is, unless you have another clock that works.
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 10, 2014 1:35:31 GMT -5
Blah, blah. I research and check my facts at multiple sources, and you know it. InfoWars wasn't the source of the article you're going on about, they were just one of the thousands of news websites that carried it.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2014 12:01:38 GMT -5
If you already knew how reliable Alex Jones is as a source for facts, then why did you post the InfoWars link in the first place?
Especially after going on a rant how mainstream news is all completely unreliable?
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 10, 2014 12:28:12 GMT -5
Again, Alex Jones was not the source of the information. His was merely one of the many websites that published it. And the only person who's ranting here is you.
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