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Post by raybar on Sept 23, 2013 20:00:19 GMT -5
This talk, posted to the TED site today, relates to the sorts of false memories that Fred (and I to a lesser extent) mention here from time to time. Human memory is not reliable. No matter how certain you are about what happened, no matter how clearly you remember something, you might be wrong. www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_loftus_the_fiction_of_memory.html |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2013 13:55:32 GMT -5
The woman is a defense attorney's dream. That's why forensics has become so important, which is a double-edged sword. Forensics can also be twisted. Just look at the Zimmerman trial. Or the Casy Anthony trial. Basically, I don't think this is such a good thing, Raybar. Quite frankly it should make you wonder about skeptics as well. About how good are their memories and thus thinking faculties. I resent the implication that anything you don't understand that is reported is a false memory. Not everything, of course, but just from those you don't think are as intelligent and unbaised as you and yours are.
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Post by raybar on Sept 25, 2013 10:29:55 GMT -5
The woman is a defense attorney's dream. That's why forensics has become so important, which is a double-edged sword. Forensics can also be twisted. Just look at the Zimmerman trial. Or the Casy Anthony trial. Basically, I don't think this is such a good thing, Raybar. I hope that increasing knowledge about how our minds and brains work and advances in forensic techniques will lead to a higher percentage of accurate verdicts. I don't like to see either the guilty "get away with it" or the innocent get convicted. Quite frankly it should make you wonder about skeptics as well. About how good are their memories and thus thinking faculties. I resent the implication that anything you don't understand that is reported is a false memory. Not everything, of course, but just from those you don't think are as intelligent and unbaised as you and yours are. Neither the "memories and thus thinking facilities" nor the intelligence of skeptics are different from those of anyone else. We are all human and are all basically alike. It's a matter of outlook. Whereas some people (have you met Molly's ex-sister-in-law?) are liable to believe anything you tell them, others will ask for evidence before making a judgment -- either pro or con. I do not know where you have found an "implication that anything you don't understand that is reported is a false memory." I hope I have never said anything that could be taken that way. I try very hard to classify anything I don't understand as "not understood," and I try to resist the urge to form even a tentative guess until I have adequate information. If I disagree with someone, it doesn't mean I think he is stupid or biased, it just means I disagree. Of course, some people are stupid and/or biased, but if I form such a critical and unflattering opinion, I truly hope that it is based on solid evidence and not on emotion or any bias I may have. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 12:33:13 GMT -5
I know it sounded like I was attacking you personally, Raybar. That was not my intent and I'm not. It just happened to be you that posted that topic. And I stand by my opinion. Also, that woman is nothing but another paid expert schill in my opinion, who'll say anything that they're paid to. I consider her TED talk just a way to further advertise her services. Really, in hundreds of cases, all of them had witnesses for the state that had memory problems. Right. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 16:16:05 GMT -5
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