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Post by debutante on Feb 16, 2018 8:30:34 GMT -5
I don't usually watch Dr. Phil but since there were nothing but reruns of the programs I normally view -- Dr. Phil had my attention this week.
Where does he find these people? He had two guests on separate days who sent massive amounts of cash to total strangers they met online through dating services because they were "in love" [ $100,000 and $191,000]. Dr. Phil proved neither man existed.
I wonder how people can possibly reach adulthood [and we're talking over 50 in both cases] and be so incredibly dumb.
I see why people watch this show. It's addictive-- you can't stop watching because it's so bizzare.
-- Debutante
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Post by joan on Feb 16, 2018 10:25:33 GMT -5
Did you see the one where that woman said she was married to Tyler Perry? The scariest thing to me is that this woman said she worked for Homeland Security!
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Post by raybar on Feb 16, 2018 10:27:21 GMT -5
When there's nothing but reruns, you could turn off the television.
People who reach adulthood "so incredibly dumb" are usually equally dumb as children.
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Post by debutante on Feb 16, 2018 10:55:51 GMT -5
Joan,
I tuned in late! She works for Homeland security? GOD HELP US!
I got the impression she still didn't believe that she wasn't married to Tyler Perry by the end of the program. I couldn't believe it. I felt so sorry for her children.
-- Debutante
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Post by debutante on Feb 16, 2018 10:59:49 GMT -5
Raybar,
I've met children that had more on the ball than these two women. Who sends six figures to people sight unseen? Who falls in love with text on a computer screen?
And their families looked positively ill to think that all that money was sent to con men.
-- Debutante
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Post by raybar on Feb 16, 2018 12:31:25 GMT -5
". . . children that had more on the ball than these two women.
It sounds like an insult, but it is simply stating a fact to say (regarding intelligence) that half the people are below average. Which means the half the children (those above average) are smarter than half the adults (those below average).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 16:27:20 GMT -5
Raybar, IQ is only one of the parameters that make a person "intelligent".
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Post by raybar on Feb 16, 2018 16:35:06 GMT -5
I do not think of IQ as a parameter. It's more like an evaluation based on parameters.
What parameters do you mean?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 16:39:16 GMT -5
I rarely watch Dr. Phil anymore. I got so sick of marital problems. in-law problems, out-of-control kids problems. Just not interesting anymore. But shows that show how older people are being defrauded by fake online lovers, I do think that is very valuable to air. The thing about on-line dating is that many people do get matched up legitimately and even get married. One latest public example is Ashleigh Banfied from HLN Justice Program. She recently got married to someone who she met on Match.com.
So it's difficult to convince older people who are mostly lonely, that your online lover is fake, even when you're sending thousands upon thousands of money to these evil creeps. One woman was just about to lose her house. It took a lot to convince her, but eventually it did. But it's really questionable that it really took. I guess a lot of it has to do with failing mental faculties. Who knows, but it's good that these kinds of things are being made public, such as on Dr. Phil. I really don't see it done anywhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 16:40:02 GMT -5
I do not think of IQ as a parameter. It's more like an evaluation based on parameters. What parameters do you mean? Instinctual emotional intelligence for one.
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Post by joan on Feb 16, 2018 17:08:54 GMT -5
Joan, I tuned in late! She works for Homeland security? GOD HELP US! I got the impression she still didn't believe that she wasn't married to Tyler Perry by the end of the program. I couldn't believe it. I felt so sorry for her children. -- Debutante Yes, she stated she worked for Homeland Security, that she had a good job and was a smart person. Her daughters were lovely young women, don't you think? By the end of the program I also believe, like you, that nothing changed in her delusion. SO STUPID. It is very scary to think she holds a government position in such a sensitive agency. Hopefully, she's the charwoman. eta--I think a person like that should not be humored or assuaged, but told in no uncertain terms what a MORON she is. Plain & simple: "Lady, you're wrong & you're an IDIOT." Let her deny or cry it out, I don't care. She was repellent in her lunacy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 17:31:36 GMT -5
That's another reason I don't watch him anymore. He has weirdos on his show. It smacks of desperation for ratings.
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Post by debutante on Feb 17, 2018 4:18:25 GMT -5
Joan,
I thought the daughters were very impressive young ladies. And I was upset that the mother would be sending her money to some man instead of putting it aside for their education.
No man she isn't married to [unless it is her children's father and the expenses are medically related] should be given her family funds. And even then, it should be throughly investigated to make sure the money is going where it is supposed to go.
I don't care that she thought it was for Tyler Perry's charity. Her children should be her first priority. Give a reasonable amount to charity if moved to do so [but only reputable ones and certainly not to some clown over the Internet claiming to be Tyler Perry!]
Since I tuned in late I wasn't sure if this woman was a widow or divorced. Hopefully, a widow is protected by her husband placing her assets in trust with an executor [if she's an idiot]. Unfortunately, that's not often the case.
I know this one man who I absolutely loathe. He was married to a friend of mine and made her life miserable. Catholic -- so she stuck it out until she died. I told my husband the day of her funeral that he would marry again quickly. He is a parasite and needed another host.
Sure enough, he found himself a well-fixed widow. All of a sudden, he began touring the world [on her dead husband's money]. He even raided the dead man's closet and wears his clothes. Needless to say, her grown children hate his guts. They see him for the mooch he is -- well, I suppose she gets "him" for her money [which is more than I can say for these catfished gals] but that's certainly no prize.
These ladies would be better off forgetting about men and playing bingo.
What's wrong with bingo, anyway? All the widow women in my old neighborhood played bingo after their husbands passed and weren't desperate for men. And they remained wealthy with what their husbands left them until the day they died.
I don't get these modern gals. My grandma once told me some old codger hit on her when she was visiting her brother in Florida. She told me she threatened to whack him with her cane. She said, "What do I need with a man at my age?" LOL!
--Debutante
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Post by faskew on Feb 18, 2018 9:32:50 GMT -5
Lonely-hearts scams are some of the most profitable around. There are even detective agencies who specialize in exposing such, hired by relatives to save old folk from the scams. Can’t remember the name of the book, but I read one several years ago by a female PI in San Francisco who specialized in Lonely-hearts scams. Check out “Romance scam” in Wikipedia. In particular, the external references at the end. Like Nigerian prices, lonely-hearts scams are often clustered around specific ethnic groups or nationalities. Since there are more old women with money than old men, most scams involve conning old widows.
Common example - married Gypsy woman pretends to be single, marries an old man with money, keeps him drugged up so she doesn’t have to sleep with him, and hopes he dies in a year or two so she and her husband can clean up. Detectives show up with proof of the scam, but the old guy refuses to believe it. “She really loves me.” Families often have to go to court. Usually, once the cops are involved the Gypsy woman disappears. Similar for female victims. The older the victim, the sooner the payoff. Yes, they can be killed, but that's taking a chance. Just hang on for a couple of years, let the victim buy you cars, trips to Europe, etc., and let nature take its course. Even if the family breaks the will, you can have squirreled away tons of loot that can't be traced. 8-<
Dr Phil and such shows are the modern versions of the carny freak shows of the 19th century.
Step right up, ladies and gentlemen, see the two-headed calf, the alligator man, the bearded lady!!! And, for mature patrons only, the Dance of the Seven Veils as performed by Princess Ashtar.
Carny freak shows are out of style – TV freak shows are in. The more bizarre, the better. And some sort of strange or perverted sex is just icing.
It’s scary that so many people watch such crap. But the good news, if any, is that much of it is fake. Depending on the show, people audition with wild stories and, if the producers see money in the tale, they don’t bother with any background checks to see what’s true and what’s not. I could go on and claim to be a former Secret Service member who witnessed LBJ having sex with a chicken back in 1966 and no one would argue with me. “Yes, Phil, I still lie awake at nights wondering whatever happened to that chicken. I’ll never get over the gleeful look on Johnson’s face. [breaks into tears]”
Make up a story, audition. Get some money, make your ignorant relatives proud. Anybody can do it. 8->
Side note – I’ve always been fascinated with freaks and freak shows. Read many books about such. Of course, most freaks in the olden days were physically deformed, mostly due to birth defects, but there were fakes even then. Some freaks were kept locked up, like sex slaves, and raped or otherwise mistreated. Since they weren’t properly human, human laws didn’t apply. P. T. Barnum was a good man, though. He shared the profits with his freaks and many of his became quick wealthy, bought their own homes, married, and carried on as best they could under those times and conditions.
Of course, there was always the sex. How did Tiny Tim (midget) have sex with his wife? Inquiring minds want to know. How did Ying and Yang (Siamese twins) have sex with their wives? Inquiring minds want to know. How did the man with two penises (true story) have sex? Inquiring minds want to know. And so on.
Safe to say that any doctor who goes by their first name (Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz), is just a freak-show barker and should just go ahead and change their name to Doctor Majestic! or Doctor Extraordinary!, put up some banners, and start hauling in the rubes.
Step right up! See the redneck woman who married her own nephew! See the snake with three heads! See the doctors without shame!
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