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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 23:22:23 GMT -5
Looks like in the probable near future the internet will be unavailable to me in most of the ways I use it now. That is, most websites are going to Facebook, and most of them require you to sign up to view them, which means signing up on Facebook. Hell no, I won't go. I don't trust it. They say it's safe, until the next time it's not. I have a friend whose Facebook account has been hacked. My favorite movie site has been moved to Facebook-at least for most of the folks there. Well, just as well. I'll just go back to more reading and other more productive stuff. I'll still be here, however, no thanks to you folks who can't think of anything to post most of the time.
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Post by raybar on Aug 4, 2013 0:25:23 GMT -5
I have a Facebook account under a fictitious name for such purposes. On google+ I'm raybar r., which is not my real name either.
Neither of these accounts has any information about me -- all those "tell us about yourself" fields are blank, and every feature I could find is deactivated.
I am not interested in either of these services, and I most certainly do not want to be tracked across the internet. I suppose that if someone really wanted to track me down, and had a little internet skill, they could. But why help them?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 0:39:37 GMT -5
What about IP addresses? I would love to have you to tell me I'm being ridiculous. Believe, I would.
I go to other websites and there and behold are advertisements that are stuff I've looked at. Believe me, we are being tracked. I've even confirmed this with a website I purchase from. We can however, keep deleting our cookies, but it's there somewhere. And now that we know we're all being tracked by you know who, it gives me the creeps, however innocent we might believe we are. Just one word wrong and we're in the cross-hairs. Disgusts me. It's like the boiling frog thing. Starts off just warm and cozy, and before you know it, we boiling and dead.
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Post by debutante on Aug 4, 2013 10:24:00 GMT -5
Dear Lily:
I wouldn't worry too much. The majority of us lead boring lives. If the government wants to track my online purchases of scrubbing appliances or bras -- let them. I mean, really -- they have to pay people to sort through all this nonsense and there's millions of people in the USA. It would be a goofy waste of their resources to sort through average Joe's/Jane's purchases when you think about it. I don't think anyone really dangerous would be stupid enough to transact questionable purchases online anyway. I imagine they'd be going about whatever they do sneakily.
Insofar as Facebook -- I don't have enough "friends" to make it worth my while anyway. Those I do have, I email or post to ...and those I haven't seen in years probably wouldn't care about me anyway -- so why bother? Facebook -- that kind of thing is for young marrieds who want to post photos of their new babies or homes. I put it on par with brag books.
--Debutante
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Post by raybar on Aug 4, 2013 12:56:09 GMT -5
Tracked by "you know who?"
Part of the problem is that you really don't know who and you don't know why.
You are not only being tracked through your internet activity (cookies, IP addresses, etc.) You are also being tracked through your credit card use and through your purchases anywhere you have a membership of any kind, such as supermarket "club cards" and discount cards at stores like Staples and Office Depot and Lowes and Home Depot and so on.
There are massive databases being maintained for various reasons - government spying, market research, etc. Aside from only using cash and not shopping at the same places enough to become know to the cashiers, I don't think there is any way to avoid it.
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Post by raybar on Aug 4, 2013 13:23:58 GMT -5
Facebook -- that kind of thing is for young marrieds who want to post photos of their new babies or homes. I put it on par with brag books. Sometimes family and friends are actually interested in keeping up with each other and seeing pictures of the kids and the vacations. Facebook provides an easy way to do so without having to make numerous phone calls or mail a lot of letters. It can be very useful if handled sensibly. On the other hand, you can open yourself up to an endless stream of crap that people expect you to read just because they posted it. I do not, for example, need to read the idiotic nonsense posted relentlessly by Molly's ex-sister-in-law, and I don't care about anyone's cute dog pictures.
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Post by pat on Aug 4, 2013 17:40:47 GMT -5
Do very little on my FB. account....have one to see what the kids are up to, what my nephews and their families are busy with. Like Ray , I've deactivated all I can. Just as he said, having "member " cards, etc., owning property, a vehicle, cable TV, means a computer somewhere knows who you are. Short of paying cash for absolutely everything one buys, keeping money out of the bank, I'm not sure how one can absolutely be kept unknown to the world.
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Post by faskew on Aug 5, 2013 7:02:49 GMT -5
Like others have pointed out, if you have credit cards, a bank account, a car, etc., you're in the system. If you either rent or own someplace to live, you're in the system. If you pay local, state, or federal taxes, you're in the system. If you get a paycheck or a government check, you're in the system. In the not too distant future, stores will set up RFID stations so that they'll know everything you buy even if you pay in cash. They'll even know what you looked at and didn't buy. And so on. Unless you plan to become a hermit and hide out in the wilderness, you're in the system.
There are sites that hide your IP address as you surf the Internet. You can sign up with FB and such using false info. And you can delete cookies as fast as you get them.
But why bother? There's safety in herds. Millions of people are on the Internet at any given moment and there's nothing about them that's of interest to anyone except businesses trying to sell stuff. No one really cares.
And besides, Resistance is Futile. 8->
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