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Post by debutante on Jul 28, 2013 18:48:25 GMT -5
Without going into too many details:
Yesterday, we had a family discussion regarding the fact that we’d REALLY like to change something in our lives. This would be more easily said than done – there were a lot of issues involved. Suffice it to say it was something that couldn’t be done diplomatically, nor easily, nor without inducing a lot of guilt in some and hard feelings in others.
Today, what we so ardently wished to change – changed by default. Something weird happened which gave us the result we wished for without my family having to address any of the above issues. Unfortunately, what was a “good” result for us (getting what we REALLY wanted) was “very bad” for someone else (not that we could control fate…)
I am…not happy that the bad thing affected someone else. At the same time…we have what we wanted….so my emotions are very conflicted.
Still…it makes me wonder if ardently wishing for a particular “result” can cause strange weird things to happen.
I am seriously creeped out. Be careful what you wish for??? Isn’t that what they say???
--Debutante
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Post by raybar on Jul 28, 2013 19:50:09 GMT -5
No, wishing for something does not cause anything to happen. Unless you go do something, nothing will happen, no matter how ardently you wish. There is no such thing as magic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 19:54:38 GMT -5
No, wishing for something does not cause anything to happen. Unless you go do something, nothing will happen, no matter how ardently you wish. There is no such thing as magic. Oh, pooh.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 19:55:45 GMT -5
Deb, when I read your last line, I immediately thought of "The Monkey's Paw". Now I'm really curious.
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Post by debutante on Jul 28, 2013 21:19:08 GMT -5
Dear Lily:
Oh geeze -- you'll think I'm a terrible person. I know I feel like one.
A long term employee (who has earned my loyalty) is way past the age of retirement. This person hasn't been able to adequately perform the job (and by adequate, I mean "so-so" -- I no longer expected exceptional work due to age) at least the past six to eight years.
Thing is, I am really good to work for -- so nobody ever quits or retires. I've been paying this person for undone work for a very, very, long time.
Anyhow...things kept getting worse and worse. The less I expected, the less the person did. In fact, "personal phone calls" (from various friends, family, friends of family members too) took up several hours every day.
Still...how do you encourage someone to leave on their own (when they don't want to)...I didn't want to have to be the one to let the person go.
After a family discussion yesterday -- "what are we going to do" --- it was decided that someone would at least bite the bullet and tackle the personal phone call issue. We didn't know what the response to that would be...this wasn't going to be easy, but since it wasn't going to be me doing it -- I resolved myself to whatever will be, will be.
Today...well, this discussion no longer needs to take place. The person's arm is broken in several places due to a freak accident, and is expected to be out for months...if not longer -- at that age, perhaps never returning.
I feel awful...I wanted retirement from the job...but not this way.
--Debutante
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 21:38:22 GMT -5
Okay, now I have to agree with Raybar. In no way did you cause this and never ever did your wishing for her retirement cause this. Of course I don't think you're a terrible person. If you really were, you would have sacked her a long time ago and never even gave it a second thought.
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Post by faskew on Jul 29, 2013 6:56:58 GMT -5
If wishing or praying or any other form of magic actually worked, imagine what the world would be like. No, really, think about it. Would children in the south Sudan be starving to death if their parents wishes came true? Would the millions of children around the world with terminal cancers and such still be sick if wishes came true?
7 billion people a day wish for something. Groups of millions (sometime billions) wish for the same thing. If magic were real, no one would ever get sick, die, or be poor. The fact is that the majority of humans in the world are poor in varying degrees, and we ALL get sick and die. Therefore, magic doesn't do squat. 8->
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Post by pat on Jul 29, 2013 7:46:33 GMT -5
Deb, sometimes things just happen .,.Sometimes we benifit from what happens, sometimes others do. I'm sorry circumstances have not been the best for this woman, but it just is as it is. Stop fretting, we cannot wish anything to happen.
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Post by raybar on Jul 29, 2013 8:53:08 GMT -5
... we cannot wish anything to happen. Actually, we can and do wish for things. All of us, I think, and all the time. But wishing alone won't make anything happen -- you have to act. An old expression I learned from my extremely Christian grandmother is "God helps those who help themselves." She prayed daily, but she didn't sit around waiting for God fix things, she did so herself.
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Post by joan on Jul 29, 2013 16:07:26 GMT -5
It could be worse Deb. When I read the initial post I thought "who died?"
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Post by debutante on Jul 30, 2013 6:40:40 GMT -5
Dear Joan:
It's my understanding that the arm is broken in several places. At that age, recovery prospects are not good. I doubt full range of motion will return. I guess that's better than death...but it's just sad.
Dear Pat:
I hope so...it's just that the night before we were all wishing that the work relationship would terminate. So it just seems a bad case of timing.
Dear Lily:
I hope so. I just wish we hadn't been talking about wanting this person to retire somehow...
Dear Raybar and Fred:
That's why I love the skeptics. I was feeling terribly guilty the wishing. I still feel...bad, but not quite as bad as I did before I read your posts.
--Debutante
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Post by faskew on Jul 30, 2013 6:45:35 GMT -5
Ah, well, you should still feel guilty, you evil person you. LOL.
We all have "bad" thoughts about other people pretty much every day. Especially if we drive in heavy traffic. But there's a big difference between thinking something bad and acting on it. Wishing doesn't count. 8->
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 16:49:06 GMT -5
Deb, please do me a favor and have some bad thoughts about two mynahs that still stick around my property. I want them gone!!!
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