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Post by rmarks1 on Jun 9, 2014 15:04:19 GMT -5
This is from the liberal Washington Post:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2014 6:06:27 GMT -5
Couldn't find any more news about the apocalyptic socialist wastelands of Europe, where governments sentence people to death at a whim through their socialist deathcare death panels?
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Post by raybar on Jun 10, 2014 8:50:52 GMT -5
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Post by rmarks1 on Jun 10, 2014 13:30:42 GMT -5
Couldn't find any more news about the apocalyptic socialist wastelands of Europe, where governments sentence people to death at a whim through their socialist deathcare death panels? And you couldn't find any valid way to refute my post, so you are trying to change the subject. What Ray presented in his post is a valid counterargument. You should take a lesson from him. Bob |
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Post by rmarks1 on Jun 10, 2014 13:36:41 GMT -5
Right Ray. But that number, 57,000, is the number of vets waiting for their first appointment. Once you are in the system, it is easier to get a follow-up appointment. So it is wrong to give the number of total visits, as NPR does here. You have to compare that 57,000 with the total number of vets going for first time visits. That would probably be a lot less than 85 million. Bob |
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Post by raybar on Jun 10, 2014 16:08:51 GMT -5
Whatever the numbers and the percentages, they are too high. And not just because it's the VA. If our health care system was working well there would be only isolated problems like these anywhere in the industry.
Reports of shortages of doctors and nurses, and of large numbers of staff vacancies at both public and private institutions, is extremely worrying. You can hardly blame the VA for delays if they really can't find and hire enough trained personnel. But what's wrong with the medical education systems? Why are there not enough people getting trained?
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Post by rmarks1 on Jun 10, 2014 18:36:02 GMT -5
Whatever the numbers and the percentages, they are too high. And not just because it's the VA. If our health care system was working well there would be only isolated problems like these anywhere in the industry. Reports of shortages of doctors and nurses, and of large numbers of staff vacancies at both public and private institutions, is extremely worrying. You can hardly blame the VA for delays if they really can't find and hire enough trained personnel. But what's wrong with the medical education systems? Why are there not enough people getting trained? You raised some good questions Ray. The problems are not because of money. In 2013 the VA budget was $139.1 billion. www.va.gov/budget/docs/summary/Fy2015-FastFactsVAsBudgetHighlights.pdfThat's not chump change. What are we getting for our money? Bob |
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