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Post by Gifthorse on May 12, 2014 18:08:07 GMT -5
John Oliver hosts a mathematically representative climate change debate, with the help of special guest Bill Nye the Science Guy, of course. youtu.be/cjuGCJJUGsg
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 12, 2014 18:17:33 GMT -5
Every "fact" he mentioned is incorrect. Global temperature is not rising, ice levels are not decreasing, sea level is not rising, and 97% of climate scientists do not support "climate change". The guy is an idiot.
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Post by rmarks1 on May 12, 2014 18:34:21 GMT -5
The scientific debate is irrelevant. The question is "What action will be taken?" The answer is: None.
Bob
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 12, 2014 18:50:00 GMT -5
Nevertheless I find it annoying that the same "facts" are trotted out again and again by climate alarmists, when they can be easily refuted.
As for no action being taken, that's just not true. We're paying through the nose here in Europe for various carbon reduction measures. There's a carbon tax on my electricity bill, for example. There's a carbon tax on lightbulbs. There's a carbon tax on petrol, and on cars. Many people here installed solar panels on their roofs in response to the huge rise in the cost of electricity, and began to generate their own electricity. What did the government do? It outlawed the extraction of energy from solar panels! If you want to generate power from solar panels now, you have to pay a substantial fee. In other words they've taxed the sun. The same thing is happening in other countries. It's a revenue-generating scam.
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Post by Gifthorse on May 12, 2014 18:54:52 GMT -5
I figured that video might make Zak's head start spinning. "Nope, there is positively no climate change!"
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 12, 2014 19:11:29 GMT -5
Very droll, but there is no evidence whatsoever in the real world of climate change or extreme weather. There literally is "nothing to see".
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Post by rmarks1 on May 12, 2014 21:28:47 GMT -5
Nevertheless I find it annoying that the same "facts" are trotted out again and again by climate alarmists, when they can be easily refuted. As for no action being taken, that's just not true. We're paying through the nose here in Europe for various carbon reduction measures. There's a carbon tax on my electricity bill, for example. There's a carbon tax on lightbulbs. There's a carbon tax on petrol, and on cars. Many people here installed solar panels on their roofs in response to the huge rise in the cost of electricity, and began to generate their own electricity. What did the government do? It outlawed the extraction of energy from solar panels! If you want to generate power from solar panels now, you have to pay a substantial fee. In other words they've taxed the sun. The same thing is happening in other countries. It's a revenue-generating scam. What!!! By their own standards, that makes no sense at all. Solar panels produce electricity without CO2 production. So why are they taxing solar panels? Unless, of course, all the government wants is money any way they can get it. Bob
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 12, 2014 21:48:43 GMT -5
Isn't that what I've been saying? The taxing of electricity is the same. It's a scam. It doesn't result in people using less electricity, because the tax is set at minimum usage. It just means you pay 30% more for the same electricity. No one is using less electricity (that would mean not cooking, not watching TV, not showering etc.) They're just being charged extra for normal usage. None of these carbon taxes make any sense in terms of reducing CO2 emissions. They're just a way of taxing people.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 7:48:33 GMT -5
Very droll, but there is no evidence whatsoever in the real world of climate change or extreme weather. There literally is "nothing to see". I don't see any evidence for your psychic powers either but you don't see me calling you an idiot, now do you?
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 13, 2014 8:04:54 GMT -5
A meaningless comparison. I'm not requiring you to believe in my psychic powers. I'm not asking you, or the general public, to pay a psychic tax. You are free to believe, or not believe, in my or anyone else's psychic abilities. If you don't believe, that's fine. On the other hand you are NOT free to reject "climate change", because it involves government legislation and various compulsory taxes and measures.
And by the way, the scientific evidence for psychic abilities is far stronger than the evidence for "climate change".
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Post by Gifthorse on May 13, 2014 11:28:17 GMT -5
And by the way, the scientific evidence for psychic abilities is far stronger than the evidence for "climate change". Thank you for that, Zak. I hadn't laughed all day.
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Post by Roger (over and out) on May 13, 2014 12:03:26 GMT -5
It happens to be a fact. You seem to be more inclined to accept non-evidence based claims if they come from some "authority", than you are to accept facts that can be substantiated with real evidence.
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