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Post by rmarks1 on Mar 24, 2020 10:22:21 GMT -5
Bob
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Post by debutante on Mar 24, 2020 10:43:39 GMT -5
Thanks, Bob.
I needed good news. I hope he's right.
-- Debutante
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Post by mikkel on Mar 25, 2020 3:23:25 GMT -5
Did you actually follow the links and read what it said and understand what it said in regards to China and South Korea? Mikkel
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Post by rmarks1 on Mar 26, 2020 9:22:21 GMT -5
Did you actually follow the links and read what it said and understand what it said in regards to China and South Korea? Mikkel
Did you find something I missed?
Bob
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Post by mikkel on Mar 27, 2020 6:24:58 GMT -5
Did you actually follow the links and read what it said and understand what it said in regards to China and South Korea? Mikkel Did you find something I missed? Bob
Here is a good article behind what is at play behind the model in your link. NOW REMEMBER, IT IS NOT TRUE, IF YOU THINK, IT IS NO TRUE AND IT WON'T HAPPEN, BECAUSE IF YOU THINK, IT IS NOT TRUE, THEN IT WON'T HAPPEN. REMEMBER IT IS ALL PANIC AND IT WILL FLATTEN ITSELF, BECAUSE THAT IS HOW IT HAPPEN IN CHINA. IT WENT AWAY NATURAL AND ON ITS OWN. I hope you will stay safe and wish you all the best of luck. Mikkel
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Post by rmarks1 on Mar 27, 2020 17:38:23 GMT -5
Did you find something I missed? Bob
Here is a good article behind what is at play behind the model in your link. NOW REMEMBER, IT IS NOT TRUE, IF YOU THINK, IT IS NO TRUE AND IT WON'T HAPPEN, BECAUSE IF YOU THINK, IT IS NOT TRUE, THEN IT WON'T HAPPEN. REMEMBER IT IS ALL PANIC AND IT WILL FLATTEN ITSELF, BECAUSE THAT IS HOW IT HAPPEN IN CHINA. IT WENT AWAY NATURAL AND ON ITS OWN. I hope you will stay safe and wish you all the best of luck. Mikkel
Where is the link?
Bob
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Post by mikkel on Mar 28, 2020 3:55:57 GMT -5
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Post by debutante on Mar 28, 2020 12:50:12 GMT -5
This article was obviously written before 93 million N-95 masks were mysteriously "found" after Bill Barr announced that hoarders would be prosecuted. A union with ties to the Democratic party "just happened" to stumble upon them. Not to worry -- they are selling these door $5 a pop (normally about $1.20)-- and the cash from this profiteering will go straight into the Democratic coffers. And they've also found ventilators stored after the NY politician whined that Trump didn't send them. They were sent. The city neglected to distribute them. It is shaping up like the hurricane where they were whining they weren't sent supplies then months later the warehouses were found with the supplies the politicians never distributed to the people. This article is bullshit. The Democrats are screwing around with badly needed supplies during an epidemic and all of them should be charged with attempted murder. Because withholding these things is precisely that. Furthermore, they only "need" enough ventilators TODAY to accommodate the patients that they have TODAY. It is absurd to criticize based on a projection for the future when numbers are not established and new ventilators are being constructed and shipped each day. As long as they arrive when they ARE needed there is no problem in reality only in an idiot's mind. It is nice to have a stockpile. But if every patient already has one you are okay, at the present. www.nbcbayarea.com/news/coronavirus/seiu-locates-39-million-n95-masks-for-healthcare-workers-local-governments/2262072/veltnews.com/epic-thousands-of-ventilators-found-in-ny-storage-trump-says/--Debutante
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Post by mikkel on Mar 28, 2020 13:12:48 GMT -5
This article was obviously written before 93 million N-95 masks were mysteriously "found" after Bill Barr announced that hoarders would be prosecuted. A union with ties to the Democratic party "just happened" to stumble upon them. Not to worry -- they are selling these door $5 a pop (normally about $1.20)-- and the cash from this profiteering will go straight into the Democratic coffers. And they've also found ventilators stored after the NY politician whined that Trump didn't send them. They were sent. The city neglected to distribute them. It is shaping up like the hurricane where they were whining they weren't sent supplies then months later the warehouses were found with the supplies the politicians never distributed to the people. This article is bullshit. The Democrats are screwing around with badly needed supplies during an epidemic and all of them should be charged with attempted murder. Because withholding these things is precisely that. Furthermore, they only "need" enough ventilators TODAY to accommodate the patients that they have TODAY. It is absurd to criticize based on a projection for the future when numbers are not established and new ventilators are being constructed and shipped each day. As long as they arrive when they ARE needed there is no problem in reality only in an idiot's mind. It is nice to have a stockpile. But if every patient already has one you are okay, at the present. www.nbcbayarea.com/news/coronavirus/seiu-locates-39-million-n95-masks-for-healthcare-workers-local-governments/2262072/veltnews.com/epic-thousands-of-ventilators-found-in-ny-storage-trump-says/--Debutante Good that the Democrats get more money. As for the ventilators got any link besides Trump saying it. Mikkel
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Post by debutante on Mar 28, 2020 14:42:15 GMT -5
Actually, people are writing in for the N-95 masks to be confiscated by the government. Hopefully, that will happen and the Dems won't profit. This is another article on the subject. It isn't a case of "Trump said it". It is a fact. At the present time, there are enough ventilators for every patient TODAY. The issue is over projected patients. Now you need to understand that the original projection has been REVISED to a MUCH LOWER number. But the NY politician (a Dem) is attempting to paint Trump as a failure for not supplying equipment for the original larger number stockpiled. A stockpile is nice to have. BUT TODAY YOU ONLY NEED ENOUGH VENTILATORS FOR THE PATIENTS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE. That is the reality of the situation. The New York politician blew the city's budget on solar panels which sit unused and other Dem silly purchases. When given the opportunity to purchase ventilators he refused to do so. He is attempting to cover his own shortsightesness and failure to allocate city funds for necessary medical equipment rather than pie in the sky New Green Deal type garbage. www.oann.com/president-trump-gov-cuomo-continue-to-clash-over-n-y-ventilator-supply/--Debutante
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Post by mikkel on Mar 28, 2020 16:15:03 GMT -5
Actually, people are writing in for the N-95 masks to be confiscated by the government. Hopefully, that will happen and the Dems won't profit. ... You are a communist and nuts. Leave to the free marked and capitalism. The Dems profiting is the will of God. You are an atheist. You are destroying God's capitalism.
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Post by debutante on Mar 28, 2020 19:59:14 GMT -5
If these masks were already paid for with taxpayer money, stolen, hidden in a warehouse, then "discovered" by a union with Democratic ties -- explain to me why a city hospital would have to pay for something that is already taxpayer property.
I'm waiting to hear your defense of outright theft and subsequent profiteering off of theft
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I have to laugh. Do you really think the union owns these masks under some "finders keepers law"? I mentioned the price only because I wanted to show how crooked Democrats are! Not only are they attempting to sell citizens something they already paid for but they are price gouging at the same time!
You really don't get Democrats! They're crooks!
-- Debutante
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Post by mikkel on Mar 29, 2020 1:51:58 GMT -5
If these masks were already paid for with taxpayer money, stolen, hidden in a warehouse, then "discovered" by a union with Democratic ties -- explain to me why a city hospital would have to pay for something that is already taxpayer property. I'm waiting to hear your defense of outright theft and subsequent profiteering off of theft Edited to add: I have to laugh. Do you really think the union owns these masks under some "finders keepers law"? I mentioned the price only because I wanted to show how crooked Democrats are! Not only are they attempting to sell citizens something they already paid for but they are price gouging at the same time! You really don't get Democrats! They're crooks! -- Debutante No, they make money. Money is God. I have the best moral compass. You are a communist. You want the government to stop people, not just Dems, from making money. Money is God.
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Post by rmarks1 on Mar 29, 2020 9:47:08 GMT -5
If these masks were already paid for with taxpayer money, stolen, hidden in a warehouse, then "discovered" by a union with Democratic ties -- explain to me why a city hospital would have to pay for something that is already taxpayer property. I'm waiting to hear your defense of outright theft and subsequent profiteering off of theft Edited to add: I have to laugh. Do you really think the union owns these masks under some "finders keepers law"? I mentioned the price only because I wanted to show how crooked Democrats are! Not only are they attempting to sell citizens something they already paid for but they are price gouging at the same time! You really don't get Democrats! They're crooks! -- Debutante No, they make money. Money is God. I have the best moral compass. You are a communist. You want the government to stop people, not just Dems, from making money. Money is God.
Of course you have direct quotes from Deb where she said that Money is God?
Bob
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Post by mikkel on Mar 29, 2020 10:54:30 GMT -5
Of course you have direct quotes from Deb where she said that Money is God? Bob
I don't care. She says Dems are without a moral compass and nuts. I am playing with her. She set the standard. She can in effect lie and so can I for rhetorical purposes. I just know that I am doing that and playing a game of my morality is better than yours. Mikkel
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Post by debutante on Mar 29, 2020 11:34:49 GMT -5
Durham. Tic-Tic. --Debutante
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Post by mikkel on Mar 29, 2020 12:11:04 GMT -5
I will just keep the moral compass, I apparently don't have and be nuts, which I am not as you believe I am.
Mikkel
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Post by rmarks1 on Mar 29, 2020 19:53:57 GMT -5
Of course you have direct quotes from Deb where she said that Money is God? Bob
I don't care. She says Dems are without a moral compass and nuts. I am playing with her. She set the standard. She can in effect lie and so can I for rhetorical purposes. I just know that I am doing that and playing a game of my morality is better than yours. Mikkel
That's wrong. If you think someone is lying, you counter them with Truth and not more lies.
Bob
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Post by mikkel on Mar 31, 2020 2:27:11 GMT -5
There is no Truth, Bob. ... There is no general agreed upon definition of cognitive relativism. Here is how it has been described by a few major theorists:
“Reason is whatever the norms of the local culture believe it to be”. (Hilary Putnam, Realism and Reason: Philosophical Papers, Volume 3 (Cambridge, 1983), p. 235.) “The choice between competing theories is arbitrary, since there is no such thing as objective truth.” (Karl Popper, The Open Society and its Enemies, Vol. II (London, 1963), p. 369f.) “There is no unique truth, no unique objective reality” (Ernest Gellner, Relativism and the Social Sciences (Cambridge, 1985), p. 84.) “There is no substantive overarching framework in which radically different and alternative schemes are commensurable” (Richard Bernstein, Beyond Objectivism and Relativism (Philadelphia, 1985), pp. 11-12.) “There is nothing to be said about either truth or rationality apart from descriptions of the familiar procedures of justification which a given society—ours—uses in one area of enquiry” (Richard Rorty, Objectivity, Relativism and Truth: Philosophical Papers, Volume 1 (Cambridge, 1991), p. 23.)...
Cognitive relativism consists of two claims: (1) The truth-value of any statement is always relative to some particular standpoint; (2) No standpoint is metaphysically privileged over all others. ... www.iep.utm.edu/cog-rel/#H3There are beliefs, which apparently work.
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