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Post by debutante on Jan 13, 2020 11:03:18 GMT -5
Hi Fred: Iran "said"? Ever hear the term "taqiyya"? Let's get real, shall we? If you believe Bathhouse Barry was a Christian, I have a bridge I can sell you in Brooklyn real cheap! I know he is a Moslem and so does everyone who doesn't take things at face value. There is ample evidence from photographs of Obama in full Moslem garb to his middle name. Then there's that matter of his ring... www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/It doesn't take a Rhodes scholar to know the guy lied through his teeth to get elected. The question becomes: When one Moslem cuts a deal with a group of Moslems does anybody ever tell the truth? Obama gave them billions and lifted the sanctions.... Iran broke the deal three times prior to May of 2016 (at which point Trump's presidency was still a twinkle in God's eye!) www.huffpost.com/entry/iran-breached-the-nuclear_b_9977768Ooopsie! They lied! But Bathhouse Barry and the rest of his incompetent (or perhaps deliberately incompetent) Democrat dolts kept striving to "save the nuclear deal" at all costs -- by conceding more, and more, and yet more, to Iran's demands. They needed to read : "If You Give A Mouse A Cookie", by Laura Numeroff. This book should be required reading for all diplomats involved in foreign policy. But heaven and the saints be praised -- God in His Infinite Wisdom and Mercy gave us Trump. And Trump is the perfect man for the job. His "flaws" make him "just right". Without them, the Democrat communists (and everyone else) would run roughshod all over him. Make no mistake (God didn't) -- any man without the qualities which comprise Donald Trump would not be standing after all they've thrown at him. As Olive Oyl would say, "Oooo, what a man!" Trump pulled us out of a shitty deal made with a pack of liars. What's not to like? Finally we have a president with sagacity in practical matters! (The moral of the story is: All the frou-frou "pseudo -intelligentsia cocktail party type jabber" don't mean shit to a tree! *quoting a old Jefferson Airplane song here* ) But the Democrats are fond of saying Obama LOOKED and ACTED sooo presidential. What the hell good does that do in a practical sense? A good waiter in tux at a five star restaurant looks and acts well too-- but I wouldn't let him run my government. Go Trump!!! 2020 The best is yet to come! More later... think I am coming down with the flu -- having symptoms on and off...they just came back on... --Debutante
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Post by faskew on Jan 15, 2020 9:54:24 GMT -5
>If you believe Bathhouse Barry was a Christian, I have a bridge I can sell you in Brooklyn real cheap! ---If you believe Trump is a Christian, I have a bridge I can sell you in Brooklyn real cheap! LOL. If Obama was Muslim, he was a very bad one. He drank alcohol, ate pork, didn't pray 5 times a day, went to Christian church, etc.
>Obama gave them billions and lifted the sanctions.... ---Obama and 6 other nations
>Make no mistake (God didn't) ---Have you seen the stories about why at least some evangelicals like Trump, despite him violating all their values? They believe that Trump is the Anti-Christ and he will initiate the 2nd Coming by starting WW3 and destroying the world. They, of course, will immediately pop off to heaven, leaving the rest of us behind to suffer. 8->
>What's not to like? ---Well, Iran had stopped its nuke weapon development but now has begun it again. Do we really want Iran to have nukes? Hey, if we can buy them off for a few billion of their own money, it's well worth the price.
>More later... think I am coming down with the flu ---Did you get the shot? I do every year. Not 100% effective, but safer than without. Plus, I'm super paranoid during the prime infection times - Thanksgiving and Xmas - when millions of people move around bringing variations of diseases to different parts of the world. I try not to touch anything in public with my hands and use the alcohol hand lotion often. You know the drill - rest, fluids, lots of bad TV shows, etc.
---It's so frustrating that we're having measles epidemics again. Several thousand children have died because of adult stupidity. Sigh.
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Post by debutante on Jan 15, 2020 10:30:52 GMT -5
Hi Fred:
No -- I didn't get the flu shot. I have (and I'm sure it's genetic) an over active immune system. All of my health problems have, at their root, a whacked immune system.
My mom got the flu shot one year and within a week or two came down with Guillian-Barre. I know (and this is just instinctive on my part, that had she not had that particular shot she would never have come down with Guillian-Barre).
Don't misunderstand me. I think the flu shot is probably safe for almost everyone who gets one. But I wouldn't advise anyone on my mother's side of the family to roll the dice and take it because there is some kind of hyper immune system problem running in the genes. That's why I won't go for one.
Weird thing about Guillian-Barre since I am on the subject -- it's not really all that common a thing and from what occurred when my mom had it, I gathered most doctors never see a case.
My brother and husband both knew what she had (having both seen cases during their residency -- but they both were trained in a hospital that got every disease that came down the turnpike).
The doctors at the hospital where my mother was admitted had no clue what was going on and my brother and husband did not interfere until it got to the point where the paralysis was about to hit the lungs. Then they told her attending what he was dealing with because it was apparent none of them were going to figure it out on their own. Anyhow she lived to tell the tale -- with a complete regain of function (really rare) -- but my mother was as tough as nails and accomplished much through sheer willpower.
It did teach me that one disease you don't ever want to get is Guillian-Barre, because if my brother or husband isn't around to tell people what you have -- you'll probably die.
Horrible, insidious thing -- a creeping paralysis that works its way from the bottom up.
Anyhow -- that's why I don't get flu shots. I am deathly afraid of the same thing happening to me because I already know I have a hyper active immune system.
Will answer you about Bathhouse Barry when I'm up to it.
--Debutante
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Post by debutante on Jan 15, 2020 17:38:34 GMT -5
Hi Fred:
I'll be answering this is sections as I'm not feeling well.
Re: Obama as a "bad Moslem"
Out of curiosity, why would you believe the concept of "taqiyya" is strictly a verbal action?
A person can deceive by adopting a lifestyle to give the impression that they are one kind of individual when they are something else altogether.
A common example (in a positive sense) would be an undercover narcotics detective. Another example (in a negative sense) is the neighbor who is really a terrorist in a sleeper cell but appears to be "just a regular guy".
So yeah -- I don't have any problem believing he was a Moslem working against the interests of the United States. Especially since many high positions during his administration were filled by Moslems or people with ties to Iran.
I don't like Obama. I don't trust Obama. I never did. He hung with people that Old Man Daley issued a "shoot to kill" order on during the '68 Democratic convention. Just because these criminals grew up and now pretend to be "respectable" doesn't mean anyone in Chicago forgot the crap they pulled back then. In the ensuing years, they've only expanded their associations with additional groups of questionable repute.
So no, nothing is ever going to convince me Obama is any different than the people he chooses to associate with -- birds of a feather and all that...
--Debutante
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Post by faskew on Jan 17, 2020 8:47:39 GMT -5
>Don't misunderstand me. I think the flu shot is probably safe for almost everyone who gets one. ---Alas, no medical treatment is completely safe. It's all an odds game. Are you more likely to die from a disease or from the treatment.
---Although I can't see why getting the shot could have caused your mother's illness. Flu vaccine is only dead viruses. Seems to me that getting the live viruses would be at least as likely to cause an immune reaction. The body's reaction is the same, regardless of what triggers it.
>So no, nothing is ever going to convince me Obama is any different than the people he chooses to associate with -- birds of a feather and all that... ---Do you apply the same rule for Trump? Look at how many criminals he has been friends with, or has appointed to office. Although he denies it, he went to many Epstein parties with underage girls, some of which were held at Mara Lago. So if guilt by association is a real thing, you should be all over Trump. LOL
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Post by debutante on Jan 17, 2020 9:40:34 GMT -5
Hi Fred:
Rumors are different than facts. There is no evidence that Trump knew Epstein beyond a single plane ride (not to the island) that he "bummed" off the man early in their acquaintance.
I "knew" several people in my youth that I dropped as soon as I found out they were "into" street drugs. When you meet a new person, you naturally assume they are okay and with time, things reveal themselves. So when I say that none of my personal friends was "into" that crap -- I can say that with conviction because they were screened for bad habits before they became "good friends". I allow Trump the same latitude in terms of time to discover what he's dealing with in terms of people. Jeffrey Epstein did not have a multitude of press coverage regarding his personal activities that a young Mr. Trump could turn to for reliable information.
On the other hand, old man Daley issuing a "shoot to kill" order is pretty darn specific. To my knowledge, he only did it once during his tenure as mayor of Chicago and it was because of some very specific groups of people who were congregating in Chicago during the Democratic convention of '68.
The photos of all the people that were "troublemakers" were plastered in the center pages of the city newspapers -- with their names clearly listed and a small description of each subversive organization of which, these people were members. There was also a list of prior arrests and convictions (if memory serves).
Suffice it to say, Old man Daley prepared the police Department for a potential explosive situation, and back in those days -- reporters were actually reporters.
The public had enough information to know that certain areas of the city were not going to be "safe" as long as these groups were congregating to cause problems. The clear message (although not directly stated) was: stay home safe, out of the way, and let the police do their job.
Things were surprisingly quiet -- I guess these "subversive groups" knew Old Man Daley had every intention of protecting his city and if they stepped out of line -- they'd be pushing up daisies.
So all of this publicity was out there -- so much so that EVERY CHICAGOAN young and old knew who these troublemakers were and what their politics involved. Don't try to tell me Obama was the one person in the city who didn't know who these people were then, and still are now, under their false cloak of "respectability".
It takes a hell of a lot for a "shoot to kill" order to be issued. Never forget that -- Old Man Daley was no fool.
So when Bathhouse Barry moved onto the National scene and the present presstitutes hid his assiciations with these well publicized criminals who had been exposed by genuine reporters in the past -- everyone in Chicago knew EXACTLY who his friends were and why Obama could NOT be trusted.
I can't think of anyone I personally know who voted for that man because they knew who he hung around with -- birds of a feather.
-- Debutante
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Post by faskew on Jan 21, 2020 7:24:06 GMT -5
>There is no evidence that Trump knew Epstein beyond a single plane ride ---Unless you count the many photos of Trump at Epstein's parties over the yeas, the testimony of dozens of witness, etc. 8->
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Post by debutante on Jan 21, 2020 11:06:17 GMT -5
Hi Fred:
I said I've given Trump latitude in the sense of "learning" who Epstein was when he first met him. To your knowledge, did Epstein have "I have sex with children" tattooed on his forehead?
Or are you claiming that Trump has psychic ability and upon meeting Epstein he should have immediately become aware of what he was into because Trump could tune into the cosmos?
It takes some degree of "casual acquaintance" before a person gets to really know what someone else is into.
Both Trump and apparently Epstein were high profile people. I've no doubt they may have attended the same social events, or charity functions, or gallery openings, or what have you.
They may have chit-chatted at those events as people are prone to do. (By the way, none of the chit-chat is ever relavatory in personal terms -- It's usually geared toward remarking upon some aspect of the event itself -- boring as all hell).
And because high profile society events are usually stuck in a column somewhere in a newspaper section dedicated to snobs -- there might be photos which exist of Trump and Epstein chatting together at different public events.
But I hardly think that commenting on the other attendees, the decor, the entertainment, or the contents of the buffet table rates as a deep personal connection between two people. There is neither the time nor the inclination to go beyond that at such a function unless it is a sit down dinner. Even then, the conversation becomes anecdotal once someone introduces a benign topic. A society function is not geared toward forming deep friendships. These thing are very superficial see and be seen and that's about it.
I doubt you can find a photo of Epstein lounging on a couch in Trump's living room or vice versa because they never really knew one another.
It's not as if say, Epstein had a painting of Trump in his house wearing a blue dress...
--Debutante
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