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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 11:36:39 GMT -5
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 13, 2019 13:27:51 GMT -5
Too bad you weren't able to make your point by finding actual quotes from real people.
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 11:56:35 GMT -5
Too bad you weren't able to make your point by finding actual quotes from real people.
Bob
Where is your counter evidence proving that these *aren't* quotes from real people?
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Post by debutante on Aug 14, 2019 12:41:45 GMT -5
Sure buddy, those little stick figure drawings are speaking directly to you....
--Debutante
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 12:51:54 GMT -5
Sure buddy, those little stick figure drawings are speaking directly to you.... --Debutante They do? I never noticed.
Did that information come to you in one of your prophetic dreams, or did God speak to you through Pinterest again?
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Post by debutante on Aug 14, 2019 13:29:13 GMT -5
Just going by what you said. You're the one who suggested those quotes came from "real people". Sure...they're real...whatever you say.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 19:41:16 GMT -5
No, I'm not a real person. I'm just a figment of your imagination. WOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 14, 2019 20:34:01 GMT -5
Too bad you weren't able to make your point by finding actual quotes from real people.
Bob
Where is your counter evidence proving that these *aren't* quotes from real people?
LOL! You're the one who made the post. It's up to you to prove that these are statements from real people.
You are implying that the person who made the first statement also made all of the others as well. So actually it's up to you to show that all of these statements are being made by just one person.
Otherwise you have no point.
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 20:56:04 GMT -5
So in other words, you have no counter evidence.
You could have just said that. Bob
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Post by debutante on Aug 14, 2019 21:09:04 GMT -5
No, I'm not a real person. Nothing you believe in is real either, so at least you're true to form. --Debutante
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 14, 2019 21:52:21 GMT -5
So in other words, you have no counter evidence.
You could have just said that. Bob
You still didn't provide any evidence that those statements were made by real people. Since you made the original post, it is up to you to provide proof. You didn't. So in other words, your original post has no supporting evidence. You could have just said that. Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 14:38:00 GMT -5
You still didn't provide any evidence that those statements were made by real people. Why should I provide any evidence for that?
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 15, 2019 21:33:49 GMT -5
You still didn't provide any evidence that those statements were made by real people. Why should I provide any evidence for that?
Uh, McAnswer. You were the one that started this thread. It's your job to provide supporting evidence.
Those cartoons you posted can only make a point if they express statements that were made by real people. If they don't, then they are meaningless.
So which Libertarians and Free Speech advocates actually made those statements?
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 6:59:06 GMT -5
Those cartoons you posted can only make a point if they express statements that were made by real people. Where is your evidence for that?
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 16, 2019 12:22:40 GMT -5
Those cartoons you posted can only make a point if they express statements that were made by real people. Where is your evidence for that?
The evidence is that cartoons can't suffer or even feel uncomfortable. So none of their complaints are valid.
Unless, of course you are claiming otherwise. Are you?
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 14:23:11 GMT -5
Where is your evidence for that? The evidence is that cartoons can't suffer or even feel uncomfortable. So none of their complaints are valid. Do you believe that Mickey Mouse is a real person?
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 16, 2019 17:10:04 GMT -5
The evidence is that cartoons can't suffer or even feel uncomfortable. So none of their complaints are valid. Do you believe that Mickey Mouse is a real person?
No. Not even when I was a child.
One more thing. Is that supposed to be one cartoon character talking or is it a bunch of separate cartoon characters?
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 12:30:17 GMT -5
Too bad you weren't able to make your point by finding actual quotes from real people. Bob
What about this one, Bob? too real?
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 17, 2019 13:57:44 GMT -5
Too bad you weren't able to make your point by finding actual quotes from real people. Bob
What about this one, Bob? too real?
Finally!
But there are still a problem here.
The views expressed in that photo are TOTALLY different from the views expressed in those cartoons you originally posted.
So which is it? Are the views of libertarians best represented by the cartoons or by the photograph?
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 13:58:34 GMT -5
You tell me, Bob. Which of these are the real libertarians?
Or are none of them real?
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 17, 2019 14:22:51 GMT -5
You tell me, Bob. Which of these are the real libertarians?
Or are none of them real?
Obviously the cartoons you posted are not of real people and the artist didn't bother to give any evidence that the views expressed were the actual views of any Libertarian.
In the photo you posted, the creator of that poster claims to be a Libertarian but doesn't give his name. For all we know, that author could have any beliefs at all and their poster could have been put up to sow confusion.
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 16:46:24 GMT -5
And for all we know, you have no beliefs at all and you are just trying to sow confusion here. Are they argueing beliefs that libertarians factually profess, yes or no?
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 17, 2019 18:47:29 GMT -5
You tell me, Bob. Which of these are the real libertarians?
Or are none of them real?
You're the one who made the original post. It's up to you to explain it.
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 20:58:29 GMT -5
So you can't tell whether real libertarians are in favor or against open borders?
You don't actually know whether real libertarians are welcoming immigrants or are in favor of locking them up?
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 17, 2019 23:33:20 GMT -5
So you can't tell whether real libertarians are in favor or against open borders? You don't actually know whether real libertarians are welcoming immigrants or are in favor of locking them up?
I never said that. You made it up.
What I did say is that we don't know who put up that flyer.
In any event, that flyer has no apparent connection at all with those cartoons you originally put up. By posting that photo of the flyer, you were Changing the Subject.
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 12:45:15 GMT -5
Are these posters advocating real libertarian talking points?
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 18, 2019 14:53:11 GMT -5
Are these posters advocating real libertarian talking points? You're changing the subject. The cartoons you posted started with a character saying that they were a Libertarian. Then all of the other cartoons had this stick character ask for government intervention. That's not Libertarian at all. Since you have changed the subject, I assume that you are not disputing this. Now as for your new question, here is the policy of the Libertarian Party's stated view: So the official position of the Libertarian Party that people cannot simply be admitted to a country. The government has to check them first. Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 4:21:17 GMT -5
So the official position of the Libertarian Party that people cannot simply be admitted to a country. The government has to check them first. The text you quoted does not mention requiring the government to give permission for people to travel. Were you meaning to quote a different text?
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 19, 2019 8:32:05 GMT -5
So the official position of the Libertarian Party that people cannot simply be admitted to a country. The government has to check them first. The text you quoted does not mention requiring the government to give permission for people to travel. Were you meaning to quote a different text?
What are you talking about? No government gives citizens of other countries "permission to travel." It can only give them permission to enter.
Were you meaning to comment on a different topic?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 12:45:32 GMT -5
The text you quoted does not mention requiring the government to give permission for people to travel. Were you meaning to quote a different text? What are you talking about? No government gives citizens of other countries "permission to travel." It can only give them permission to enter. Yes, that's what I meant. You are argueing that in order to enter a country, the government needs to give permission first, are you not? That is not mentioned at all in the text you quoted. There is no mention of requiring the government's permission to enter a country. In fact, it says this: "A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas."
How is it "free movement" when you need the government's permission to move?
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