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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 11:29:58 GMT -5
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 12, 2019 11:47:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 11:56:20 GMT -5
How wealthy was your family when they moved to America? Did they need assistance?
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Post by debutante on Aug 12, 2019 12:08:12 GMT -5
There's this thing. It's called a job. Did you ever hear of one?
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 12, 2019 12:09:28 GMT -5
How wealthy was your family when they moved to America? Did they need assistance?
The way it worked back then was the father went to America first, got a job, found a place to live, and then several months later, sent for the rest of the family.
My mother's father was a carpenter so he had no trouble getting a job.
I never found out what my father's father did for a living, but a couple of years after the rest of the family came over, he got cancer and died.
Grandma went to a private charity agency. They told her that before they would help, she would have to put two of her children in foster care.
Grandma told them where to go. She then started an illegal restaurant in her apartment (which had only three rooms) and made ends meet.
So neither family was exactly what could be called "wealthy."
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 16:03:49 GMT -5
Grandma told them where to go. She then started an illegal restaurant in her apartment (which had only three rooms) and made ends meet. What a terrible crime.
Do you think it woukd have helped if she had been sent to a detention camp instead?
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Post by debutante on Aug 12, 2019 16:08:05 GMT -5
Grandma told them where to go. She then started an illegal restaurant in her apartment (which had only three rooms) and made ends meet. What a terrible crime.
Do you think it woukd have helped if she had been sent to a detention camp instead? Why don't you ask Kate Steinle's family that question? --Debutante
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 12, 2019 17:01:48 GMT -5
Grandma told them where to go. She then started an illegal restaurant in her apartment (which had only three rooms) and made ends meet. What a terrible crime.
Do you think it woukd have helped if she had been sent to a detention camp instead?
My grandmother entered the USA legally. The family had already been in the USA for several years when my grandfather died.
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 14:43:27 GMT -5
What a terrible crime.
Do you think it woukd have helped if she had been sent to a detention camp instead? My grandmother entered the USA legally. So what? According to you, only legal immigrants are sent to "detention" camps. So in the modern day, your grandmother would have been put in such a camp to be processed. Do you think this would have been a better idea? And you think they'd have it better in modern "detention" camps?
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 15, 2019 21:39:57 GMT -5
But my grandmother did have to stay in Elis Island until her papers were processed. In fact both my grandmothers had to stay there. And all their kids too. The family consisted of eight people living in a 3 room apartment. The detention center might have been an improvement. Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 6:58:16 GMT -5
But my grandmother did have to stay in Elis Island until her papers were processed. In fact both my grandmothers had to stay there. And all their kids too. As long as she was put in a cage, then all was good. Just think of the mess she would have made if she had been allowed to roam free!
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 16, 2019 12:40:28 GMT -5
But my grandmother did have to stay in Elis Island until her papers were processed. In fact both my grandmothers had to stay there. And all their kids too. As long as she was put in a cage, then all was good. Just think of the mess she would have made if she had been allowed to roam free!
Wow. She was put in a "cage." How terrible. And just because some bureaucrats want to make sure she wasn't carrying any contagious diseases.
The poor woman complained about that for the rest of her life.
Well actually, she may have but I never heard her complain about it and none of my aunts or uncles complained either. And they were also held "prisoner" on Elis Island.
But it must have been a really traumatic event for them, I'm sure. My mother even said she enjoyed it, but she was probably just repressing the horrible memories.
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 14:28:57 GMT -5
I agree, Bob. There is nothing wrong with locking people up without trial. I don't even know why those liberals are always complaining about these things. It's not like people are dying there or anything.
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Post by debutante on Aug 16, 2019 16:34:41 GMT -5
They can leave the way they came any time they want.
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Post by rmarks1 on Aug 16, 2019 17:13:10 GMT -5
I agree, Bob. There is nothing wrong with locking people up without trial. I don't even know why those liberals are always complaining about these things. It's not like people are dying there or anything.
Fine. Send them back to Mexico and let them wait there. Then they won't be in "prison."
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 12:55:35 GMT -5
I agree, Bob. There is nothing wrong with locking people up without trial. I don't even know why those liberals are always complaining about these things. It's not like people are dying there or anything. Fine. Send them back to Mexico and let them wait there. Then they won't be in "prison." Finally, you and Donald Trump found something to agree on!
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Post by debutante on Aug 17, 2019 14:04:35 GMT -5
And what is so damn bad about them waiting their turn like everyone else who applies for citizenship? Do you think sneaking across the border somehow should grant them special privileges?
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