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Post by rmarks1 on Jun 22, 2019 22:29:42 GMT -5
This company was successful for decades. No evidence was presented at the trial to show otherwise. Unless you have some. Do you? Do you have any evidence that speech causes financial losses? No? Yea, I thought so. LOL! That was quick. Unfortunately you presented no evidence at all to back up your claims here. Yea. I thought so. And The College cancled its food orders from the bakery. That's financial loss right there. Argument by Slander. You have not presented any evidence that any of the jury members were "easily bamboozled." Remember that the selection of jurors has to be approved by both sides. Are you saying the college's attorneys didn't do their job? If so where is your evidence? You haven't presented any. Complex Question Fallacy. You haven't demonstrated that Free Speech was shut down. Again, where is your actual evidence? And BTW, the lawyers for the college had to approve the selection of each juror. Would you rather see politically appointed judges render a verdict instead? Again, you offer no supporting evidence at all. A Civil case has nothing at all to do with government censorship. Again you make accusations without providing any evidence. All you are doing here is name-calling. Bob
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 7:33:18 GMT -5
Do you have any evidence that speech causes financial losses? No? Yea, I thought so. LOL! That was quick. Unfortunately you presented no evidence at all to back up your claims here. Yea. I thought so. And The College cancled its food orders from the bakery. That's financial loss right there. So you are saying that private organizations are not allowed to release their business contracts because that would cause "financial harm" with their former business partners? It sounds like you are (and that would be in line with the claims you made months ago that universities are not allowed to cancel invitations to right-wing speakers). Irrelevant. You asserted earlier that truth cannot be determined that way, and that juries therefore do not determine truth. Yet here you are, claiming that a jury vote is an objective truth. I don't need to demonstrate facts already in evidence. Speech was shut down via court verdict, that's a fact. Your denial does not change facts, it only displays your own willful ignorance. So you keep asserting without evidence. Fact is that the justice system is a part of the government, and that its verdicts are enforced by the government. When a court shuts down free speech, then that's a government action. LOL how can I "name call" when I do not call anybody any names? I'm simply stating the blindingly obvious.[/quote]
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Post by rmarks1 on Jun 23, 2019 16:32:51 GMT -5
LOL! That was quick. Unfortunately you presented no evidence at all to back up your claims here. Yea. I thought so. And The College cancled its food orders from the bakery. That's financial loss right there. So you are saying that private organizations are not allowed to release their business contracts because that would cause "financial harm" with their former business partners? The college deliberately canceled its food orders as part of a deliberate campaign to harm the bakery. If the speaker could have demonstrated that the sudden cancellation caused financial hardship, the speaker would have also had grounds for a lawsuit. Normally people cannot cancel contracts on a whim. "Irrelevant" that you never presented any evidence for your claims. Yeah. Sure. I never made any such claims. You are making that up. Really? What "evidence?" Where? Once again, you are simply making things up. Totally wrong! No speech was shut down. There was no court order to shut down any speech. Once again, you are making things up. There is "willful ignorance" here, but it isn't mine. Again, where was free speech shut down? A Civil Jury composed of people who had no government jobs reached a conclusion that deliberate lies were told and that they caused harm. For those damages, a penalty was approved. And you haven't presented any evidence that your claims a "blindingly obvious" either. All we have is your word for it. Bob
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